Drew Smith of Burn Burn Burn talks touring, new releases, and what got them here.

We've talked about Burn Burn Burn before. Our first real article was a review of their "This Machine" EP. We did an interview with their guitar player, Adam! France, about his solo tour. Their founding guitar player, Garrett Griebel (who is currently living on the other side of the country), runs City Bear Design and has done a lot of our graphic design work. It's safe to say we're friends. The coverage they've received here is not without merit, however. They deserve all the publicity they can get.

It's great seeing a band play so many shows, release so much material, and still manage to be kind of silly. They've got a T-shirt with a slain Jar Jar Binx, proclaiming "Death to the Prequels!" They're calling their next romp down the coast "the Pickle Back to the Future Tour." These guys are real folks, who love punk, pickle-backs, and nerd culture.

I did a phone interview with Drew Smith to talk about that tour, which starts this Wednesday. Drew is an interesting guy who has worked with the Assasinators and the Americommies previously. Luckily it was kinda early when we had our chat and neither of us were too fucked up to share some good words.

Our conversation was out of order. I'm not good about writing up questions before an interview. I'm not great with professionalism either. The interview was full of nonsense and it was hard to find the important stuff and put it in order. That being said, I did it, and I think I did it well.

Burn Burn Burn got started when Drew decided he wanted to pursue a cleaner sounding project. He'd been hanging out with John, their founding drummer, a lot. Drew would scream into the mic, while playing three chords over John's drumming. At the time, Drew was a little more shaky and atonal in terms of his vocal styling. When I brought it up, he responded with, "I didn't know what the hell I was doing, I still don't know what the hell I'm doing. All I wanted to be like, and all I ever want to be like, is Fat Mike; when it comes to funny stage banter. Trying to implement that is the worst idea ever because, no matter what, you're not Fat Mike and you're not going to be a funny drunk douche bag. You're just going to be a drunk douche bag."

In the beginning Burn was a four piece. It was Drew, Chris Daniels, John Taylor, and Garrett Griebel. Travis Rimby (of CLR fame) quickly replaced Chris on the bass. That didn't last too incredibly long, and bass powerhouse, Benny Iler has been holding it down ever since. More recently, the band members have switched out a lot. John quit the band about a week before they recorded "This Machine," about a month before their nation-wide "Life is Tight Tour." Garret took over the drums for the EP, making his contributions to the final product total out to lead guitars, drums, and graphic design. Drew explained, "He's a magical ginger. He's like a leprechaun, but really tall." They had a friend from San Diego fill in on "Life is Tight," and since they got back, Ian Walter of Generation Decline has joined on drums. With Garret on the east coast, Adam has taken over lead guitar duties, while Brett Wood from On the Ground is filling in on rhythm guitar.

The new tour is equal parts promotion for the new split and a sheer need to be on the road. "Our split with Stabbed in the Back is supposed to be released right around this time. With vinyl it's always so up in the air. It might show up by the time we leave for tour, it might not. It's really cutting it. Either way, we're basically touring just because we're a band. We've got the itch and we need to. It's not the only tour we'll be doing this year anyway. Instead of doing a crazy 11 week one, like we did last year, I think we're gonna split them up and kinda regionalize it. Probably every other month, we'll just do a 2 or 3 week tour and go in different directions. If we don't have the split by this tour, we'll have it by the next tour." 

The funny thing about the split is, the Burn Burn Burn tracks were recorded before "This Machine." Drew said they were recorded for a different split that never happened. "[The tracks] were recorded, I think a month before we recorded 'This Machine.' It was supposed to be on a split with another band. With vinyl it already takes forever and that band still needed to record their's. Long story short, they broke up and became another band. We were just like 'Okaaaay. We've still got these split tracks. Who wants to be on a split with us?' So, it's going to be with Stabbed in the Back. We're super excited, because those guys are super awesome."

This tour is really exciting. The west coast is pretty easy for these guys. It's going to be a lot of meeting up with old friends. "The last tour, we toured the whole nation. Pretty much everything was foreign to us. Except the west coast and Montana. So, this will be a piece of cake." They've got a lot of great bands on bills while on this tour. It was nice to hear someone so excited about their craft and the opportunity to practice it among other masters.  "I'm most excited to play with Western Settings. They're based out of San Diego. We're playing with them on our San Diego and Tijuana dates. We're playing with the Briefs in Bellingham, SNFU and Nihilist Cunt in Reno, and our homecoming show is with a Wilhelm Scream."

Getting to play with bands you've followed for years seems like the perfect payoff, but when asked about the most rewarding part of being in a touring band, Drew said, "Honestly, it's knowing it was all done because of you. Being a touring band at this level, you get the least amount of help from anybody. Whatever satisfaction you get out of it, it's all because of the work you put into it." When I asked if he thought bands with managers lost out on some of that satisfaction, he replied, "It depends on what level they're at. You can quote me on this, if they're in a local band and they have a fucking manager, they're lame asses. One: you're not going to appreciate anything you get, and two: you have no idea how to do anything. Do you know how easy it is to book shows locally? Try booking a tour. It's hard as shit. Now, if they have a national tour booker, that's some next level shit. I don't condone or condemn any band that does that. If we got offered that, I'm not sure if we'd take it or not."

Drew's been booking the tour himself and their label, La Escalera, is providing records to sell, making sure Burn can do all they need to on tour. I was interested in how that union came to be. Drew filled me in on the strange circumstances surrounding the summer that lead to getting signed. "La Escalera signed us right after we recorded 'This Machine.' It's kind of weird how everything went down. We had a really messy summer. It's a really long story but, we got asked to play this festival in Montana and everyone got really excited." Talk of the drive lead one of the band members to suggest a national tour. " 'We should just tour the whole country and keep the drives down to four hours' I'm doing the math in my head. I'm like, 'We'd be gone for like three months!' He said, 'We could just book from the road.' I'm like, 'We? You don't know how to do this! You mean, I book all the shows from the road?'" When all was said and done, that guy quit before the album got recorded. After Drew was a month into booking the tour already. So they went ahead and announced the tour anyway. Drew told me that La Escalera contacted them and asked, "What's up with this new release? Do you need some one to release it?" La Escalera puts out the Loss, Success, Random Orbits... It's an amazing independent label. What a great fit and an amazing opportunity.

Burn Burn Burn has a lot going for it. They're signed to great label, they've managed to survive through countless member changes, and their recent releases have been gracing my playlists (and I'm sure countless other people's) for the last year or more. If you get a chance, head on out to one of their tour dates. New merch and a solid line-up are sure to make it worth your time, even if you've seen them before. It starts on Wednesday, May 28th in Burien, WA. For more information visit their Facebook and Bandcamp pages.

"PICKLEBACK TO THE FUTURE TOUR 2014"

May 28th Burien, Wa - Black Zia Cantina

May 29th Bellingham, Wa - Make.Shift w/ The Briefs

May 30th Olympia, Wa - Trackhouse

May 31st Prineville, Or - Cinnabar Lounge w/ tuck and roll

June 1st Reno, Nv - Jub Jub's Thirst Parlor *free show* After SNFU

June 2nd Sacramento, Ca - Cafe Colonial

June 3rd Hemet, Ca - The Wheelhouse Bar w/ Slow Children

June 4th Los Angeles, Ca - The Redwood Bar

June 5th San Diego, Ca - The Tower Bar

June 6th Tijuana, Mx - El Tigre Bar

June 7th Oakland, Ca - Stork Club

June 8th Chico, Ca - The Hundredth Monkey Cafe

June 9th Portland, Or - Katie O'Brien's

June 10th Seattle, Wa - El Corazon w/ A Wilhelm Scream and DIRECT HIT!

Generation Decline - Battle Anthems

If you've never seen Generation Decline, I pity you. You haven't heard any of their recordings? Well, there's no hope for your mortal soul.

Unless, of course, you remedy this immediately.

Gen. Decline gave me the blessing of receiving their new CD before anyone else had it. It's an amazing showcase of what the Bremerton punk scene has to offer. It's full of crusty, Bay-area style. The female fronts and male back-ups are reminiscent of Nausea and half of F-minus. You can hear some of Seattle's Skarp in Angel's vocals. Generation Decline is another great example of Washingtonians knowing their roots and having a thorough plan for the future.

At a whopping seven songs, this isn't even close to the longest release Fringe Music has handled, but it  may be the most important. Generation Decline manages to meld street punk, hardcore, and metal in the coolest way this author has ever experienced. Take an amazing rhythm section, meld it with a lead guitar that out-does Black Flag's Greg Ginn, and it manages to stand out above the rest of this year's guitar heroes and does so without ever sounding pretentious. Make sure they stay punk-as-fuck; and add an amazing female lead.

The Distillers wanted to be this band.

Star Fucking Hipsters wanted to be this band.

The Washington underground is blessed to have the real McCoy.

Nothing on this CD feels forced. You can savor the members' every last sweat-drop as you venture through. No holds are barred. No prisoners are taken. If you can manage to make it through this without devoting your entire life to music or destroying the system, you're a fucking cyborg. This is the new soundtrack for sedition.

Since this isn't out yet, and I didn't get an official release, I don't have the lyrics. As such, I can only give you what I picked out:

These people hate the powers that be.

They want you to help bring it down.

They also want you to make this tour a success.

They especially want you to read their interview with Fringe Music. It will be published shortly after it takes place on Tuesday, April 29th, 2014.

This album gets a 4.5 out of 5.

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Burial Suit - 2014 Demo

Hardcore isn't something I think of when I think of Olympia music. Even long term Olympia institutions, like GAG, have their roots in something else. I find Olympia hardcore to be incredibly old-school, maybe with some outside element to bring it forward, but Blank Boys and Kill Shot sounded like they were birthed in California in the early eighties.

Burial Suit doesn't fit into this model. Their music is still undeniably formed from a serious foundation of punk rock, but in the tradition of bands like Last Lights and Gallows, there's some palpable noise influence, and the metallic edge is gleaming for all to see.

This demo is a breath of fresh air, not just for Olympia, but for the world of hardcore at large. Kicking off with a discordant, watery ambiance piece may be an over-done approach, but showing their ability to keep it down and build mood while approaching the inevitable slowdown and feedback ring-out, really grabbed me. Doing a musical intro on a demo might seem like a risky endeavor. I personally think it conjured ideas of the future. It really showcases the band's ability to create a scene, musically. Engaging the listener. Perhaps they could even employ this tactic and give us an album that flows better than something by Pink Floyd or Nine Inch Nails; gods of the concept album.

The first actual song on this demo is a the break-neck, "Broken." It's short and brutal. The drums are demanding. The guitars blast through, with punk-like simplicity, and metal-like precision. Chanting back-ups once again stir thoughts of classic punk in cramped back rooms, while the powerful growls of the leader hearken to a simpler time of brutal death metal. It reminds me of Trash Talk in that way.

The second actual song starts out like something from Comeback Kid, but the second you hear the vocals it loses that. There's no whiny kid leading this outfit. The guy who's in charge here sounds like he ate that guy from CBK for breakfast. The conviction from the entire band really make this track stand out. There are some amazing starts and stops. Most of all, the lyrical content of, "Salesman! Bastard Salesman!' is really relatable. Who hasn't felt like screaming for hours on end after an annoying run-in with some douche at a Verizon Counter? ...or even worse, a car lot? This track really demonstrates the versatility these guys can bring to one song. Just how variable their sound is. How quickly they can glide through that shit.

The last track has a melancholy guitar intro that breeds a feeling of loneliness, then blows straight into intense blast beats. It's fucking unsettling... Then comes the noise break. I think you get where I'm going. It's another master piece hidden right in plain sight.

The demo as a whole is very minor key, dark, diverse, tight as a drum, fast as fuck, and full of the kind of power that could put these guys on the circuit with some of the biggest names in the industry. If you missed them at Bleak Outlook, you'll have to start stalking their Facebook. These guys aren't slated to play Capital City Punk and Core Fest, or Rain Fest. Which was a mistake by the bookers in both cases.

Adam! France talks tour, solo work, and sad times

Adam! France (that's the way he writes it. I swear to God,) is quite talented, quite sweet, and quite handsome. As if swinging around that beautiful guitar in Burn Burn Burn, or hollering in Violent Occurrence weren't enough to get your lady's panties wet; the man also busts out some amazingly heartfelt acoustic work. Trust me, if it was good enough to get me feeling like a rainy October day, it'll melt your lady in seconds.

He recently released three tracks of this gloomy singer-songwriter business on a split shared with Old Growth. To spread the word about this amazing collection of acoustic punk fare, both parties decided to embark on a short tour through the western United States. This was Adam's first tour without a band behind him. In fact, it was the first time he'd taken his solo act out of WA. With the exception of a few little sets on the Burn tour, trying to kill time. According to him, it couldn't have gone better. It was a big gamble. Going out on the road as a solo acoustic act. An unknown, solo acoustic act at that. The risk seemed to be compounded by the fact he was touring with another acoustic project. Playing all acoustic shows. Adam had never played anything but opening sets for punk and hardcore bands... How could it ever work?

Very simply, seemed to be the answer. To hear him tell it, there was one iffy show at the beginning, and everything just got better from there.  Luckily, every show took place where Adam had friends. There was always a floor to crash on. Always a shower to clean up in. They even got to cook on few occasions, which is quite rare on the road. If you didn't know. They always made enough money to pay gas to the next gig. From what I heard, it was a old road-dog's dream.

Funnily enough, there were no old road-dogs on the tour. Adam has toured before in Burn, but he's only been with them for a year and a half. The guy's is only just turning 24. The other guys were younger than him. Adam sounded like he had a good time advising these guys. Being the older, more experienced one of the group. Which is fitting, considering the split they were touring behind was considerably more mature than any of his earlier releases.

Adam started this solo project in February of 2012. He kind of fell apart after his long-term girlfriend left him. You can hear the hurt in his voice when he talks about it to this day. Not a fresh hurt, but an old, scarred wound that has created strength and growth. I'm sure the scar runs deeper and the growth was more profound, thanks to losing his childhood dog at the same time. The pain is there for all to hear on the "Losing" EP. Those songs were some of Adam's favorites. More straight forward and angry. They really lay the groundwork for his career. Recorded alone, in his bedroom, the whole thing comes off like a heart-crushing, coming of age story, told in the most sincere way. The natural environment of heart break is one's bedroom. You can tell that's where this was made. It worked. That's probably why he kept doing it.

His "Learning and Leaving" EP came next and carried the same vibe. Maybe a little more confidence. He'd already done it once. Experience and dedication where very apparent. By that time he had already been encouraged by Drew Smith, of Burn Burn Burn, to open a few shows and really get those heartbreak anthems out there.

As far as I know, the new split was also a bedroom composition. The lyrics aren't so much about terrible women. He's still frustrated, to be sure. It was the initial listen to this EP that gave me insight into Adam's melancholy approach to acoustic punk. That being the case, the rest of his catalog confirmed what he told me. That he's trying to leave that behind. Be a cry-baby no more.

No matter what you feel about acoustic music, singer-songwriters, or Adam's other projects you should get into his solo stuff. It's different. It's touching. It never, ever, sounds like Bright Eyes. It definitely seems like Adam's number one priority. I'm personally a big fan, because it gives a moving look into a massive talent, keen intellect, and deeply sensitive heart. All the while remaining uncompromising, vicious, and honest.

Fools Rush, What a Bunch of Fucking Professionals

Portland, Oregon based punks, Fools Rush, finished up a Washington tour last week. I caught up with them at the Track House last Sunday. I couldn't believe how great they were. The energy was amazing. There was an edgy, gritty feeling to their entire set. The vocals were melodic and beautiful but heartfelt and on the verge of screams, the guitars were graceful and elegant, but still noisy and aggressive... and OH MY GOD that drummer! It was like mathy pop-punk for a gilded gutter. I had never heard them before, and simply showed up expecting to cover another lack-luster punk show, put on by bands I've seen twenty times. It was an amazingly gob-smacking happenstance. They set up quick, spent minimal time talking, and still managed to look effortless and laid-back. The two seconds between songs were filled with awesome one-liners, that off-set the massive sound perfectly.

After the set, I caught up with these guys hoping to get a little insight into the band and what they were doing at a house show in Olympia. I was pleased to find the members of Fools Rush were warm and comical. Humble and gracious. Something often missing from touring bands. Especially ones with this much command over their demanding material. I found out that Drew Smith of Burn Burn Burn had hooked them up with OPP. Damn, Olympia Pyrate Punx, you always do this. Great bands in town, simply because your organization exists.

I found out that Fools Rush was founded by guitarist/ lead singer, Alden, as an acoustic project. He carried the name through many states, got to Portland, and started up a band. None of those guys are in the band anymore. The current incarnation had played about a dozen shows before this tour, with the drummer having been around a lot longer. They started out in Richland, went up to Seattle, got detained on the Canadian border and weren't allowed in due to a lack of work visas, played (and scored free pizza) in Bellingham two nights in row, and finished up in humble Olympia at the Track House. From what it sounds like, every stop was great. The crowd was always awesome and someone even handed them a Benjamin in Bellingham to get a hotel room. Once again, touring WA proved to be an awesome time to people who had no idea what to expect.

As we parted ways, Fools Rush made sure I had copies all of their CD's (DIY beauties in recycled packaging. One cover was printed on a Mike's Hard Cider box.), a hand screened shirt, hand screened (and I believe hand sewn) beer coozy, and some sick squid stickers. When I got home proudly wearing my new t-shirt, I took a listen and the recordings were every bit as awesome as the live show. Something I'm learning to be extremely surprised by. All of their shit is available for free download on Bandcamp. If you couldn't make any of the dates on this tour, do yourself a favor and go get this stuff ASAP.

Enemy Combatants - Ignorant Bliss

If you're a fan of Punkcore Records bands like, a Global Threat, or Clit 45; and enjoy the heavy breakdowns of hardcore bands like Backtrack, there's no reason not to love Enemy Combatants. Not unless, adding "fucking" to the middle of  word to ensure the proper amount of syllables will ruin a song for you.

Their Ignorant Bliss EP is straight punk. From the cover art that I can only assume is Rush Limbaugh slamming pain-killers and puffing a huge cigar, to the total run time of ten minutes and two seconds. Looking at the cover, I expected the tracks themselves to come off a lot more lo-fi. Enemy Combatants is a very DIY band, but you might not guess that from the recordings. The guitars are powerfully defined, the vocals are crispy, and the bass is present without sounding like a down-tuned guitar. The drums seem to have fallen prey to a lack of competent mics, however. The snare is kinda dull and low in the mix, but it still carries the band adequately. The most impressive thing is, I can't tell whether the guys practiced eight hours a day for a month prior, did a million takes, had amazing post production, or are just fucking machines. I couldn't find a single weak or misplaced note on the whole thing. I never got that cut-and-paste feeling that comes from heavy post production, either.

These four cuts give a telling cross section of what Enemy Combatants have to offer. From a typical street anthem about uniting and fighting back, to a low, metal-tinged intro on a song depicting the frustration that comes with a stagnant and abusive political system. The title track really stands out as an amalgam of hardcore and street. Tying together expertly delivered vocals, gang choruses, metallic hardcore breakdowns, and intricate guitar leads. The final track is a crowd pleasing sing-along. "Fuck You" isn't eloquent, it's repetitive, and it's everything that got me into punk in the first place. Telling the world that you refuse to conform, be led, or live within a superficial construct of what it means to be a person. Turning the anger that comes from constantly being forced into a position unfitting of a rat, into something positive. A joyful little ditty to get the kids up and moving.

If you're a lyric listener, and expect a certain level of articulate mastery in your verse/ chorus journey, you probably shouldn't bother. These messages weren't meant for you. The points made here are simple, but heartfelt. If you can look past choruses like, "The time is right, so u-fucking-nite," and "Fuck you, That's what we say. We don't need you. Hey! Hey!" or that happens to be what you're into, then the musicianship is really going to be worth your time.

4 out of 5

Burn Burn Burn - This Machine

Burn Burn Burn is a beloved Seattle punk band that I have had the pleasure of seeing and, in my Kill Shot days, playing with on many raucous occasions. Their stage presence rivals some of the greatest bands I've ever seen. I remember the Adicts exploding on stage at Punk Rock Bowling a couple years ago, and the feeling I had in my gut was almost exactly the same as the feeling I had the first time I watched Burn tear up the back room of Olympia's Le Voyeur. These guys may be fucking drunks, but the self-proclaimed Seattle Alcoholics sure do know how to hit ever note in the face, with Bruce Lee like precision. At the end of the "Life is Tight" tour, they made another stop in Oly, and killed every song. Needless to say, I had high hopes for this album.

From the opening snare hits, this EP speaks to my youth, my attachment to the concept of youth, and my discomfort with all things serious and frivolous. I get overwhelmed with thoughts of beers in the back of my friend's car, on the way to see some Seattle show. The experience of stale farts, spilled beer and accidental cigarette burns was always followed by the most glorious of slam-dancing, and a bruised and boozed night in a hotel room. That's what 'This Machine' is to me.

Everything I loved about punk rock back in those days is on this album. I thought it had been lost. That the melodies would never be as passionate, or that the albums would always be too produced. I found it in this EP though. In 2013! Can you believe it?

The song, 'My Friends,' points out that your buddies are really what matters, even when your lady decides you're too immature. 'Aim For the Drain' glorifies the life style, and alludes to the life saving comradery and self-satisfaction that come with being in a band.  'Bastard Church' cuts down the Westboro Baptist Church and gives you your angst fix. It all gets tied up with 'Tall Tales/ Entrails' which is a hyper, passionate song against the existence of Hell, and the brainwashing done by Christianity (I think.)

The album flows amazingly. The songs are true to life, while not sounding like an amateur closet recording. The label that picked it up is the real deal. If you haven't already, get your hands on copy and never let go.

I give it a 5 out of 5